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Hi!  I have noticed that many of the socks are sized for 8-10 women's (US) and I glance down to the end of my legs and see...6 to 6.5s so this will just not do!  I realize that when I get the hang of things, I will miraculously be able to pare down a pattern to fit my feet but right now?  That is just not on my table.

What is on my table is some gorgeous hand painted yarn that really really wants to be between my sole and shoes and not in my yarn basket!  Can anyone direct me to patterns that will work for my little feet?

Also, when it says the sock will be 8" around, that is some "unstretched" length, correct?  Because my foot measures 8" around the ball below the toes where Sensational Knitted Socks tells me to measure, but the socks then say they fit feet 2 sizes bigger than mine!

*dying to get back to knittin'*

tia!
zats

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Date: 2010-03-20 09:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thistleingrey
There's a fair amount of give, usually--I wear a US 8 narrow for shoes, but the socks I produce would probably fit a 7 medium snugly as well. I guess that if one knitted *very* tightly, there'd be less leeway, but I do knit fairly tightly and there's enough vertical as well as horizontal stretch....

That aside, most patterns I've seen say to continue along the foot until you're x inches/cm short of a particular part of the foot--that is, go till you're 1.5" from the top of the foot, or 3" from the back of the foot, depending on whether you start cuff-down or toe-up. Is that not what patterns you've seen do?

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Date: 2010-03-20 09:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thistleingrey
Here is one; here's another, much more basic.

Also--no, I have to do the swap-needle-size trick mentioned downthread to get socks to fit both my narrow feet and my walker calves. :) (One too small for most "medium" patterns, one too large.)

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Date: 2010-03-21 06:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thistleingrey
I remembered Wyvern only by chance--agreed that it's difficult to find patterns that size down as well as up with clear directions. (My mother wears a U.S. 5-5.5, heh.) Good luck and have fun!

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Date: 2010-03-20 09:18 pm (UTC)
domtheknight: espresso machine brewing into little white mugs (Default)
From: [personal profile] domtheknight
I think measurements around are for circumference of the ball of the foot, regardless of length, and standard shoe measurements (at least in the USA) are for length. So I would think what you can do is pick a pattern where you get the right circumference, and then when you do the foot, you might stop early. You can probably use pretty much any pattern out there!

A quick example... the Monkey pattern, which we're working on now, states on sizing:
Circumference: 8 inches, unstretched
Foot length: You decide!

So circumference is the ball of the foot (although in some patterns it's the leg) and the foot length is up to you - you can do however many pattern repeats you want to make it fit your foot.

I'm making a pair of socks for a friend who's got size 9 feet but the ball of her foot is 8 inches, so I'd do this pattern as written, and just make sure I went long enough on the foot that her toes weren't cramped.
Edited Date: 2010-03-20 09:25 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-03-20 09:37 pm (UTC)
minxy: Teal'c raises a hand to say "hey". (Default)
From: [personal profile] minxy
It does depend on the pattern, of course, but you're right in that most folk wear their socks with a little negative ease.

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Date: 2010-03-20 09:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minxy
One of the simplest tricks to change the circumference of a pattern without adjusting the pattern itself is to go down a needle size; this should change your gauge without going too far past your yarn's preferences.

For example: a yarn that gets 8 st/in on size 2s might get 9 or 10 on 1s or 0s. A 20% shift would get you right where you need to be with circumference, as socks do best worn with a little negative ease, I find.

That said, I recommend stretchy patterns to best fit. A ribbed sock, for instance, will comfortably fit a smaller than 8" foot without doing a thing.

Are you on ravelry? Then I might suggest this as a basic ribbed sock.

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Date: 2010-03-20 11:44 pm (UTC)
minxy: Teal'c raises a hand to say "hey". (Default)
From: [personal profile] minxy
Knit a flat bit in pattern, or in stockinette, whichever the gauge is in, and measure flat! There's nothing that says you have to do it one way or another; go with your gut.

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Date: 2010-03-21 02:12 am (UTC)
synecdochic: torso of a man wearing jeans, hands bound with belt (Default)
From: [personal profile] synecdochic
With the caveat that some people have different gauge knitting flat and knitting circular (I don't, not noticeably enough to cause problems, but Sarah does, and it's fairly drastic.)

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Date: 2010-03-20 11:44 pm (UTC)
minxy: Teal'c raises a hand to say "hey". (Default)
From: [personal profile] minxy
Whee indeed! Also, I'm katieintheworld on ravelry, and I may go pop over to dreamwidth knitters and see if you're there too.

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